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Squad Minnow
GIANT SMALLIE!!!!
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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Location: St. Joseph, Michigan
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: |
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I only fish Jackall Baits (ask my partners) with a few exceptions and that is.
1. Yamomoto Senko (oh yes I am still sponsored by them)
2. Bass Trix Swimbaits
3. Zoom Finnesse Worms
4. Zoom Centepedes
and the only reason that I have them is that Jackall has not brought something like them over to the US market place. I believe that if your going to be sponsored by a company that you had better be using thier products and not using someone's else. I will tell you this I get more calls asking about baits and where to get the latest stuff that is being used in Japan than the contrary of people complaining on me explaining Jackall baits.
As a matter of fact today I received a call from a top area pro wanting the "crazy ninja worm" he was at Lunkers and did not know it was called the "cross tail shad" so I helped him in that manner, then at the fair another top fisherman in our area asked when BJ's was going to be stocking the cross tail shad and I quickly informed him that they were on the way and he told me he needed to try them out and I told him to stop by or call and I would set him up.
I know that many of you have used the Flick Shake worm and have told me "Dude, that is the deal" and I never see any complaints from them on this site, as a matter of fact I know that I have turned on most people that were sceptic about them on to them. (if you have used them and caught fish please feel free to say so on here).
See so I personally do not care if I tout my sponsors on this site because as you can see I am very proud of the products that they have released and they catch fish. And it is not just one bait it is many baits, I try to let you guys know what baits are working not just to sell you them as they already sell all by themselves and you will see that with the new magazine articles coming out in the next few months.
As a rep. of any product it is my responsibility to use that product and promote it to the best of my ability and let anglers young and old know about it so that they can make a viable decision about if it is right for them, many anglers do not have a large amount of cash that they can use for fishing so would you rather buy 3 baits at $5 each and get one that runs true and most likely have to change the hooks out on them or get one bait for $15 that runs true out of the package and catches fish? The choice is yours, just as the choice about reading what I write on the post.
I have always wanted to know how come the west coast anglers have techniques and tips and products before we do and I have finally worked into a group of people that are willing to share techniques that are working in Japan and in California, so if you do not want to know about these products and techniques then I urge you to no longer read my posts as they will get specific with brands and baits and most likely they will be companies that I am sponsored by as I try to keep up on the cutting edge. |
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Squad Minnow
GIANT SMALLIE!!!!
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
Posts: 227
Location: St. Joseph, Michigan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:55 am Post subject: |
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I deleted this post because you can lead a horse to water but if he does not drink then so be it. 
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Squad Minnow
GIANT SMALLIE!!!!
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
Posts: 227
Location: St. Joseph, Michigan
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I deleted this post because you can lead a horse to water but if he does not drink then so be it.
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1javelin
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Joined: 20 Mar 2007
Posts: 275
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Squad, I don't think everyone is trying to make this a pi$$ing match, though some may be. I think what it boils down to is this: I contacted you a long time ago to ask about Powell rods, Jackall lures (specifically the flick shake), Ardent reels, and so on. I listened to what you had to say because in my eyes, you're sponsored by someone so you should know all about the product. What I heard instead was how this product was so much better than others because of this, and more beneficial than others because of that, and hey you should buy some of these and use them. It was a marketing conversation that I listened to, and I believe you even mentioned that you could sell anything to anyone. Then I proceed to see you using Shimano reels on G-Loomis rods. I look in boats at tourneys and see what's going on. You were repping a reel company and rod company, and not using the products. There is a lot of information out there, and I do more research than most. I forget more than most people read. I would try almost any lure, but I hate being pushed into decisions. That's why I didn't buy a single Ardent reel when I was going to, a single Powell rod when I was going to, have still yet to use a single Jackall product, and will not use Toray fishing line. Inform me, don't try to sell me. I can sell myself well enough. Say hey there Herm, you should look into this Toray line. Give me a call if you're interested in trying some. Not you should buy this because it's better than anything out there because I said so and I use it etc... I'm going to try Jackall, because I wanted to last year, but when you started throwing it around trying to make yourself look better for them I dropped the idea. Anyways, you get my point I am sure. When I didn't buy any of your stuff, didn't bite on the "deal" you were going to get me on Kaenon, you quit calling. I guess I like it that way because there is no more I'll sell you this or you need to get in on this right now or miss a deal. I did enough of that when I sold Kirby vacuums. Guess what, sold 3 in my first 2 weeks, never saw my money, and quit believing in marketing ever since then. Rep it all you want, I'll quit listening like you said and go with what I find useful. 
1Jav
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Squad Minnow
GIANT SMALLIE!!!!
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Location: St. Joseph, Michigan
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I deleted this post because you can lead a horse to water but if he does not drink then so be it.
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Squad Minnow
GIANT SMALLIE!!!!
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Location: St. Joseph, Michigan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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I deleted this post because you can lead a horse to water but if he does not drink then so be it.
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TCook
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Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 299
Location: benton harbor
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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A couple questions:
So if you were trying to rep for powell rods did you use them before you sought them out? Did you come to the conclusion that they were the best rod on the market at that time? I ask this since you only promote and represent what you beleive to be the best to help us out and money is not involved. Most guys I know with sponserships are not picky when the opportunity comes around they just want to appear profesional and get discounts or free gear at this level. They basicaly become salesman and push the products regardless if they use it or not. Maybe you are an exception but its in my nature to ask and I would do the same with anyone else.
Maybe I missed a post, but have you used the jackall rods yet to have a strong opinion on them?
Most importantly, how many tournaments have you won or had a high finish recently outside of small local deals that these baits, line, or rods were the ticket? Did they give you an advantage against the better sticks in MI? How did it make the difference and out perform what the other guys were using?
How does toray lay on a spinning reel (sounds ideal for a baitcaster though), in my experiences the harder the line the more it will jump off the spool. I found that you need to find a line with a happy medium that is supple and will lay better with no loops occuring or line jumping off. Through my experimentation (which I tried most lines on the market)seaguar invisx is the best spinning reel line you can buy and its $14.99 for 200 yards at D@R. Even 8lb gamma did not meet my standards when on a spinning reel, it had a high tendancy to jump off and create loops, 6lb worked considerably better though. Dont think I will be switching any time soon, I am 100% thrilled with seaguar invisx.
I will say myself who has no affiliation whatsoever with kaenon that they are the best sight fishing glasses through my personal experiences.
T
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Squad Minnow
GIANT SMALLIE!!!!
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Location: St. Joseph, Michigan
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| I deleted this post because you can lead a horse to water but if he does not drink then so be it. |
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Squad Minnow
GIANT SMALLIE!!!!
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Location: St. Joseph, Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:44 am Post subject: |
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I deleted most of my posts on this subject because a few people are angry that I support my sponsors and promote the products well to them I say that is just tough and deal with it.
If you want to know about Jackall products, Toray Line and Kaenon Sunglasses, Yamamoto Baits and Ardent Reels I will be happy to inform you and I will say this those of you who are not using Jackall and Toray yet, you will be the ones in 5 years from now that wondered what the drop shot was. |
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skeeterman190
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Joined: 14 Feb 2008
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| Alright I might as well chime in since I started this whole mess. Were all here for one reason and one reason alone to better ourselves and catch more fish right??(this might be long) I DO NOT beleive in a secret lure or a secret gimmick to catch fish we all have our strengths and that is what we fish too! Ask anyone that fishes with me if i throw some off the wall BS ever? Cause it catches fish. I throw like 3 things and ill put a bag of fish in the boat everytime I put the boat in the water. And 2 of the baits are homemade! And this also, have you seen our economy lately?? Why dont we support some more foreigners. I love paying $4 dollars for a gallon of gas. This may be getting off my point a little but why dont we put our money back into this country, instead of some other that HATES us? I love what japan did to us in pearl harbor. Anyways lets leave that alone politics dont go with anything! And to top it off im going to leave this post alone its a dead end street where obviously your professionlism(thats a big word) will lead U down a better street.-skeeterman- (phil strakowski) love me or hate me!!! |
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skeeterman190
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| oops forgot the A... skeeterman- |
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1javelin
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More power to you Squad for supporting your sponsors. I'm done with this post, it's useless and going to make the next tourney really awkward. I'll say hi, I'll expect you to say hi, then we'll go our seperate ways. One of these days we may talk more, but for now, it's hi, good luck, and hope you do well.
1Jav
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TCook
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Location: benton harbor
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Get_the_net
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Wow! After reading this post from start to finish it reeks of jealous anglers wishing they could do what Rich does for a living.
It is his responsibility to push his sponsors products and the fact that Jackall was the winning lure at the Erie Elite series, says something about the product. Kota beat the field by 7+ lbs. Was it because he was on another class of SM or was it the lure that was triggering bigger bites? No one will know, but he weighed more 5 lb fish than anyone. You can't convince me when there are 100's of SM under your boat like Aaron Martins and Edwin Evers had, that none of those were in the class of the fsih that Kota was catching. Was it the lure? Was it the fish? No one will know.
If you don't like his posts don't read them. But there is no reason to attack his integrity for doing his job. If you can get beyond the promos that you don't like, Rich will usually provide some info we all can use about the 'local' bite. Rich is a good fishermen. Always has been, always will be. He finds his own fish. He does not fish as much now as he used to, but I would put my money on him in most local tournaments where everyone involved has the same amount of time to practice. Alot of you could learn something by listening to what he has to say, but the jealousy alot of you display will not allow that, and that is too bad.
Keep the good info coming Rich, some of us find it valuable and useful.
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TCook
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wow you are way off on the jealousy theory. This post kind of got out of control, but I think thats because a few guys were starting to get annoyed and the sh** hit the fan. I for one am not jealous of rich and the sponsers he has attained and that is not the source of my complaints.
When it comes to advice on what to buy I listen to successful tournament fisherman who are not sponsered by what they use, I think this way because it is the most genuine advice you can get. You can take there advice as fact, this is what that guy uses out of all the choices out there and is successful in tournaments with it. Otherwise you are getting that information from someone which its there job to sell you. Sure there are cases where an angler luckes out and gets a sponser in which he already uses those products with confidence, but theres no way in knowing which is beleivable.
I do beleive rich is a good fisherman and a class A guy, but I think its obvious he uses this site mainly to sell product for his sponsers. Ya thats his right and job to do so but its also my right to complain and its clear im not the only one who thought so. Maybe you should read all his posts and then tell me I am off base that its excessive. But ya your right I will just ignore any posts when squad starts talking up his sponsers from here on out, which will be almost every post.
I think kota was on fish that no one would ever find and he hit a gold mind. From my understanding you could have cought those fish dropshotting almost any plastic. He was fishing suspended fish in 80ft of water in the 40-50 ft range that were feeding on a ball of large unkown baitfish. I dont think any of the other top finishers were doing anything like that.
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